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We spent yesterday in Torquay, at a trade fair for the gift industry. Torquay is a lot nicer than it is supposed to be, though claims of the 'English Riviera' are a bit much. But it does have wooded cliffs, white apartment blocks and a lot of palm trees, so I can see why they push it.

The trade fair was much as it sounds. There was a lot of old tat. T and I located some existing, and some potential suppliers amongst all this - some great ceramics, glass and jewellery. It's rather like meta-shopping. Although I wore a suit and T was smart, it is a bit 'out and proud' to have to go around a mainstream trade fair with a badge marked, in large letters, 'WITCHCRAFT', but everyone was pretty cool with it. One of the gift suppliers took one look and said 'Ah, I suppose your target market is more the Wiccan end of things.' And a woman from a very classy glassware company in Bath said 'Oooh! Are you witches? We love doing witchy stuff. We did Witchfest last year and we had so much fun.' Then she offered to produce some glass with pentagrams on it, so a trip to Bath is in the offing in the near future. Everyone in whom we were interested also supplies the Glastonbury Abbey giftshop but we are, kind of obviously, aiming at a rather different market.

One of the UK's main Celtic jewellery suppliers wants to consult us about a more Wiccan range; they've had some stuff with pentacles on it and got a lot of flak from some fundamentalist group in the US - they asked me to explain this. When I asked how they'd reacted, they said they'd just ignored it.

After the fair closed, we drove to Dartmouth and took the little car ferry over the river. Dartmouth is lovely - it's the south west's equivalent to a small fjord, and all the houses are painted in bright colours. It was one of Britain's main military ports at one point and we passed a house belonging to a man who had founded Newfoundland, like you do. We had a walk round an old fort, had a drink and then dinner in a 17th century pub. I haven't been to Dartmouth since the Milford writers' workshop was based near Torquay, and it was good to see it again.

Date: 2006-01-19 06:46 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] morgaine-x.livejournal.com
we passed a house belonging to a man who had founded Newfoundland

Ooh. was that John Guy, who founded Cupids? Or Cabot, who first bumped into The Rock?

Date: 2006-01-19 07:39 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mevennen.livejournal.com
I have a feeling it was John Guy, but I am not sure - I think I'd have remembered Cabot.

Date: 2006-01-19 08:30 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spytfire.livejournal.com
One of the UK's main Celtic jewellery suppliers wants to consult us about a more Wiccan range; they've had some stuff with pentacles on it and got a lot of flak from some fundamentalist group in the US - they asked me to explain this. When I asked how they'd reacted, they said they'd just ignored it.

Wow....those fundy groups really do have too much time on their hands.



Date: 2006-01-19 10:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mt-yvr.livejournal.com
Margaret Cho, who I think by gay-law I must love or something, once explained her response to such things.

"Um.... don't you have a Rapture to get ready for?"

Date: 2006-01-19 11:15 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spytfire.livejournal.com
Haa haaa! What a good comeback, and why am I not surprised it came from Margaret Cho?

Date: 2006-01-19 10:00 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greeneyedkzin.livejournal.com
We had a silly woman lecturing about Jesus' love (which was mostly hellfire) on the subway with such enjoyment that I do hope she brought a second pair of underpants with her.

As I left the train (this was the day before my job ended), I leaned toward her and said "what about the part in Second Corinthians about women being forbidden to preach?"

So I got a smarmy "God bless you" for my pains.

Hey, she's not orthodox, though. I LOVE invoking St. Paul on those people.

Date: 2006-01-20 04:26 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mevennen.livejournal.com
LOL! My Catholic friend is also very strong on aspects of scripture, especially when Mormons come to the door.

Date: 2006-01-20 04:28 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] greeneyedkzin.livejournal.com
I have to say that it's a matter of boundaries before one even gets to theology. These people are in one's face and shouldn't be, even if it deprives them of such obvious enjoyment.

Date: 2006-01-20 07:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mevennen.livejournal.com
Exactly. I had the same issues on reading reports of some goddess group who disrupted a church service. At the end of the day, it's just rude.

Date: 2006-01-19 10:38 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] klwilliams.livejournal.com
When I asked how they'd reacted, they said they'd just ignored it.

Very wise of them. I wish more people would.

Date: 2006-01-19 11:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spytfire.livejournal.com
Would ignoring them make them crawl back into their little hole?

Date: 2006-01-19 03:31 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] klwilliams.livejournal.com
It would do more to get that result than catering to them. That just encourages them to keep annoying people.

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